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PM urges Vincentians not to apply for asylum in Canada

Omega John told a Canadian reporters that she lost sight in her right eye after being punched by an ex-boyfriend. Her refugee claim was denied. (Photo: Jennifer Wang/ Toronto Star)

KINGSTOWN, St. Vincent – Vincentians making bogus claims for asylum in Canada are being encouraged to stop doing so.

“It is not a good thing that we are going there and exaggerating this problem, which we are having,” Prime Minister Dr. Ralph Gonsalves said on radio yesterday.

He was referring to Vincentians who tell Canadian authorities that they are not safe here because of domestic and other forms of abuse.

The Prime Minister was speaking one day after an exposé on St. Vincent and the Grenadines in the Toronto Star, the headline of which asked, “Is this Caribbean idyll the worst place in the world to be a woman?”

The 1880-word piece include a video in which Keturah Cupid, 43, details the abuse she reportedly suffered at the hands of her relatives and an ex-boyfriend.

A slideshow of photograph includes Omega John, 39, who said her right eye was blinded after being punched by her ex-boyfriend.

Gonsalves said the claims for asylum could result in Canada relooking its immigration policy toward Vincentians.

“What will change is that if Vincentians continue to make these false claims, … the whole country will suffer because Canada … will require visas, which they don’t require at the moment,” he said.

Gonsalves, who is also Minister of Legal Affairs, said Canadian authorities have come to this country and “see there is adequate state protection of persons who are subjected to domestic violence”.

He. However, said that Vincentians have told him that they “manufacture the evidence about abuse.

“I don’t live on Mars. … I know that there is domestic violence in St. Vincent and the Grenadines and it is a matter that all of us have to work on, not just government,” he said.

“And there are laws dealing with it but … we have to be careful that we don’t underplay it and we have to make sure we don’t exaggerate it, for whatever reason, political or otherwise,” Gonsalves further stated.

“There are some people in the system here, in the country, who want to exaggerate it …”

Gonsalves quoted a section of the article that said over the past ten years more than 4,500 Vincentians — about 4.3 per cent of the nation’s population — have applied for refugee status in Canada.

Keturah Cupid, who siad her relatives often tied up like a “Thanksgiving turkey” and beat her, lived in Canada illegally for three years before applying for refugee status. She was deported in July. (Photo: Jennifer Wang/ Toronto Star)

The writer contextualised the statistics by saying, “Proportionally, it’s as if the entire populations of Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and Labrador were to flee Canada.”

“Now, if you take a small base and you get a larger percentage, you then apply that percentage to a larger population to extrapolate,” Gonsalves said.

“I mean it is the classic misuse of statistics. But, from the time you see an opening line like that, you know what’s the theme,” he further stated.

Gonsalves further said that a Vincentian woman a few years ago showed to him a letter a Canadian lawyer had drafted to support a claim for refugee status there.

He said the would-be applicant, on seeing he content of the letter, refused to sign it.

“She sent me a copy of it. … I sent it out for [my staff] to file. So it’s part of the permanent record the government,” he said.

He further said that Vincentian lawyers also facilitate their compatriots wishing to make these claims in Canada.

He said some lawyers write for clients letters that say they are abuse victims but did not report the incidents to the police because of police inaction.

“It is all prepared for a fee here. That has to stop. People, over the long haul, will see that this is something, which is nasty to do. They know it is wrong,” said Gonsalves, a lawyer.

“I issue this warning, you can’t continue doing this repeatedly,” Gonsalves said to the refugee claimants, noting that most applicants are unsuccessful.

According to the Toronto Star article, last year, 710 Vincentians sought asylum in Canada, up from 179 in 2001, placing this nations of 106,000 among the top ten from which refugee claims to Canada are made.

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60 thoughts on “PM urges Vincentians not to apply for asylum in Canada

  1. The word you were searching for is political, “domestic and political abuse’ not domestic and other abuse, why not just try and be a little bit truthful, just a little bit.

    Women are abused, women are abused, they are abused. They are beaten, flogged, mentally and physically tortured, raped and murdered.

    Prime Minister Gonsalves was accused and charged with rape by a police women, he never went before a court to be found no case to answer, not guilty or guilty. He has also been accused by a Canadian lawyer of sex related charges, again that was thrown out, without going before a court for a judgement.

    Children, boys and girls are raped and abused in all sorts of ways, by fathers and strangers alike

    We are the capital of the World per capita for these types of crimes.

    How can you ask people not to apply for asylum in Canada or elsewhere.

    Posted by Peter | November 14, 2011, 12:10
    • Peter I totally agree with you. women are being rape, beaten and killed at an alarming rate in St.Vincent. A recent report by international observers states that St Vincent have surpassing other countries in the caribbean in relations to femecide and lack of due process regarding domestic abuse against women. But also lets not forget the gays and lesbians, the colonial laws have gone unchanged for the past hundred years. so If Vincentians are filing for asylum abroad- giving the country a bad name.? what would you said to the govement of St Vincent and the Grenadines when it comes to the international stage regarding the country’s efforts of some of the more pressing issuses!

      Posted by reflection | November 14, 2011, 23:27
  2. so if you’re blamed for something you are directly guilty?
    if a case has no merit, it should still be drawn on to damage a person’s character?

    I wonder if it was done to you, you’d have the same views you have right now.
    He is right, ask them to bring these people to JUSTICE and not just to RUN AWAY like it never happened.

    Posted by I hate Ignorance. | November 14, 2011, 13:06
  3. Vincentian’s in Canada file these bogus claim because they want there landing but are leaving a bad reputation on our country.What they don’t understand is the repercussion that the country will face because of there actions.They fine the easy way to get straight and file these bogus claims.The real reason why they file these cases is because of lack of education and lack of jobs in St.Vincent ,that is something that Ralph administration have to focus on,but they have made some improvements over the number of years.

    Posted by ken | November 14, 2011, 19:53
  4. ALL WOMEN IS AT RISK OF BEING RAPED AS LONG AS THE PM IS AT THE HEAD OF SVG BECAUSE HE WILL NOT COME OUT AND TELL THE MEN TO STOP THE ABUSE AND RAPE OF THE WOMEN FOLKS., PLEASE MR PM THE GUYS LOOK UP TO YOU AND THEY LISTEN WHEN YOU SPEAK, PLEASE SAY SOMETHING FOR GOD SAKE.

    Posted by MORE THINGS CHANGE THEY REMAINS THE SAME | November 14, 2011, 20:38
  5. That is not true u all giving st vincent and the grenadines bad name we have the best caribbean country in the world

    Posted by juu | November 14, 2011, 21:44
    • Juu…. the country’s own leader has already give St.Vincent a bad name… When the PM visit the united nations insteady of raising the progress the country has made on womens rights and changing the laws regarding gays and lesbians…insteady he make portrait st Vincent as a third world country in need of international country hand outs. If our country want ot be a forward thinking and inovating society we need to take the lead in the caribbean and set the standards high. Vincentians are not the only ones using the immigration system to seek asylum in Canada. According to the immigration laws each person is guarantee due process for their claims. SO if someone from St Vincent feels he or she are in need of protection let them apply.

      Posted by reflection | November 14, 2011, 23:14
  6. I guess with all the issues being raised, we are forgetting the horrible situations that gays and lesbians faced in this homophobic country. According to the laws of St. Vincent and the Grenadines its against the law for anyone of both sex to be intimate. The united nation has charge St.Vincent on cleaning up its act on women and gays and lesbians rights. So to say we are giving St Vincent and Bad name by filing for protection in Canada using legal means of doing so…ask yourself haven’t the government already done that on the international stage.

    Posted by reflection | November 14, 2011, 23:04
  7. Reflection, your posts are just EMPTY RHETORIC.

    Are you forgetting that we REJECTED the then PROPOSED NEW CONSTITUTION which was a “SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT” over the OUTDATED and FLAWED one given to us by our FORMER COLONIAL MASTER, Britain, in 1979 in the REFERENDUM EXERCISE?

    It seems to me that our COUNTRY doesn’t want to be “FORWARD THINKING” and it doesn’t want to be an “INNOVATIVE SOCIETY.”

    Moreover, JEOPARDIZING our ABILITY to TRAVEL to CANADA without a VISA with these BOGUS CLAIMS of REFUGEE STATUS is not “FORWARD THINKING” or “INNOVATIVE”

    As far as what has been said at the UNITED NATIONS, CLEARLY you KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about FOREIGN DIPLOMACY nor do you know the LIMITATIONS of POOR ISLAND STATES, with HARDLY any NATURAL RESOURCES, in a TIME of a GLOBAL ECONOMIC RECESSION.

    LEARN how the ECONOMIES of INDUSTRIAL NATIONS AFFECT a COUNTRY like ours, when they’re in an ECONOMIC TAILSPIN, before you come TALKING about what Dr. Gonsalves said at the UN, which you CLEARLY LACK UNDERSTANDING on.

    Posted by vincypowa | November 15, 2011, 01:52
    • Well said my friend well said!!!!

      Posted by kirah | November 15, 2011, 12:16
    • vincypowa read this and shut up….

      Hungary, China, Namibia, Colombia, Mexico. These are among the top 10 countries from which refugee claims to Canada are made.

      But one of the world’s tiniest nations has started appearing on the list, a place many Canadians couldn’t find on a map: St. Vincent and the Grenadines.

      Last year, 710 Vincentians sought asylum in Canada, up from only 179 in 2001. This “jewel of the Caribbean” ranked 8th in the world for refugee claims to Canada.

      It turns out the vacationer’s idyll is one of the world’s worst places to be a woman. Over the last decade, more women have been murdered in St. Vincent than any other country in the nine-member Organization of Eastern Caribbean States.

      In 2007, the island nation had the third-highest rate of reported rapes in the world, according to a UN report. Even Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves has been twice accused of sexual assault, once by a policewoman and once by a Toronto lawyer. Both charges have since been withdrawn by the public prosecutor.

      And then there’s domestic violence.

      follow the link below for more on the article…

      http://www.metronews.ca/toronto/canada/article/1024586–jewel-of-the-caribbean-is-a-woman-s-nightmare

      Posted by reflection | November 15, 2011, 19:18
    • Vincypowa…the Vincentian people rejected the ULP proposed new constitution which was flawed in many ways….. so to state that it was a significant improvement- is a slap in the face of democracy…

      Posted by reflection | November 15, 2011, 20:16
    • well said

      Posted by svg native | November 16, 2011, 14:34
  8. CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT NOW!

    Posted by P. Brown | November 15, 2011, 08:08
    • i agree with this post , this government is hiding too many things happening in st Vincent the man who is doing most is a big fat white liar

      Posted by Tanny Browne | November 15, 2011, 14:17
  9. P. BROWN ,CHANGE the GOVERNMENT for what?

    Who is going to take over, a PARTY that is not READY to MANAGE a MAUBY SHOP much less GOVERN a COUNTRY.

    Do you know the VISION, PLANS, POLICIES and PROGRAMMES of this MAUBY SHOP party to DEVELOP and MOVE SVG FORWARD

    Posted by vincypowa | November 15, 2011, 08:37
  10. I wondered how long it would take VincyPowa to get involved in this chat. VINCYPOWA is a paid collaborator on behalf of Gonsalves and the ULP. He intercedes whenever Gonsalves or the ULP are attacked, you can find him on almost every blog and chat site. He protects his masters from the truth, whenever the truth rears its head he is there to refute it. MR Nasty.

    Please ignore him

    Shame on the people, shame on all those collaborators who suppress the truth, and shame on those in the Diaspora who support this wicked Marxist regime.

    Posted by Peter | November 15, 2011, 09:19
    • how about Shame on those people who falcify information in order to gain legal status in Canada???? i am all for a legit and valid claim. If violence is present then by all means make it public. But trust me i know a few people from St. Vincent who write out these so-called valid claims in order to stay here in Canada and get a free ride. No truth to it what-so-ever. That is what i call unfair.

      Posted by kirah | November 15, 2011, 12:19
    • well said peter…. pay him no attention..its not worth wasting good brain cells on a lap dog and goverment puppet ….. we need more forums like these to expose the kind of government we have. you can certainly tell he got his degree of PUPPETRY from the SCHOOL of -take what WE have to say as the whole truth and not but the truth ULP.

      Posted by reflection | November 15, 2011, 18:42
  11. Is that useless PM serious?am in canada for 5years have my paper for 3 years(through sponsorship)i have a friend when i was in high school that girl has being abuse by her mom for a long time i met her when she was 13years bk home @13 years old she had a boyfriend he abuse her so much i had to beg my boyfriend to let her stay with me,the boyfriend went to jail for beating her,that girl has lived in almost every village in St.vincent,she prostitute herself buy a ticket come to canada file refugee,she is now a permanent resident and is in college,who was there to protect her?NO ONE

    Posted by masonda a henry | November 15, 2011, 11:03
    • Exactly Masonda… It is easy for the goverment of St Vincent to sweep these issuses under the rug. But bold enough to stretch their hands for hand outs from the same countries that have seen and raising the alarm on the issuses surrounding human rights abuse in St Vincent… .

      Posted by reflection | November 15, 2011, 18:48
    • This is the truth that needs to be told. i dont know what the PM is trying to hide.He would know a lot about bogus claims, because jus before the last elections he sent a young lady here in canada … she has now file a bogus refugee claim, (if you can call it that). If the pm wants to go public with this then heres a good place to start, let him first tell the nation why his wild oats is in canada filing for refugee in SVG is so good???

      Posted by INK | November 15, 2011, 19:03
    • You were there to protect her by giving her place to live, you said the boyfriend got arrested the police protected her. Now who made the decision to go and prostitute themselves for money to fly out? her right?

      Posted by Vigilant | November 19, 2011, 13:37
  12. coming into canada and claiming refugee status from saint vincent and the grenadines is a waste of time,the ladies especially,look at the men do you see they are claiming refugee status? the ladies only want to sit on their behind and collect the tax-payers money and having children every year thinking they will get paper,this has nothing to do with politics,its about bringing down their country,the vincentians are trouble makers in canada,they are lazy people,they steals from their employers,they have affairs with MARRIED men ,they go to the grocery store and steal, they said bad things about each other,they are doing this to put the blame on their country,the prime minister has nothing to do with them going on REFUGEE,they are just GREEDY AND LAZY

    Posted by SUZZAN BROWN | November 15, 2011, 13:14
    • Madam…I must say if you are catergorizing all Vincentian women who miggrated to Canada as theives, liars and trouble makers what to say about you too? Many Vincentian women whom I have met and knows are hard working resident of Canada and are making a significant contribution to Canada. there are many Vincentian women out there in the Canadian soiciety who are razing the next potential prime-minister of Canada.

      So what gall you have to label all vincentian women as liars, theives and trouble makers…

      If you have nothing constructive to say shut up and keep of the conversation……..

      Posted by reflection | November 15, 2011, 18:57
      • first of all I must let you know i am a Vincentian by birth and Canadian citizen by marriage,learn to spell before you start to attack people,does my words hit you hard like LIARS,THIEVES and TROUBLE MAKERS?yes it did because i am speaking to you,its people like you who gives my country a BAD name,of course everybody is not the same ,so before you started pointing fingers,you must know my cousin works with IMMIGRATION and getting people like you out of this country back into the country that you all claims you are running from will be a good idea

        Posted by susan brown | November 16, 2011, 18:44
      • Miss Susan Brown…first of all do not concern yourself with my dictation and spelling ( at least you could read), and as to your comment on your cousin working for imigration to remove vincentian like me… I must say you really have a narrow view of Vincentians who have migrated to Canada..( not all of us are ilegals and living in fear that one day the police will coming knocking at our doors and remove us from the country.. for one i am a Vincentian too by birth and a educated Canadian citizen. As to your cousin working with imigration to remove vincentian like us..(for one who stand up for the truth and for justice)..he or she can be removed from their post with immigration, if he or she conduted themself unlawfully with regards to cases from St.Vincent it must be reported and will be reported thanks to you and your mouth….. beleive me It wouldn’t be hard to track down who is working on cases from st vincent.

        but there is another side to you Miss Brown, it seems like is only the bouswazees from kingstown should only be the ones to migrated to North America to give St Vincent a good image… how low class you are….

        Posted by reflection | November 16, 2011, 22:56
      • PS.. Miss Brown..because I am not too sure if your marriage was a bogus scam to get your Canadian citizenship…. so before you rock the boat make sure you are able to swim and float…….

        Posted by reflection | November 17, 2011, 20:15
      • yes rejection that’s how i labelled you,especially,a THIEF, A LIAR, AND A TROUBLE MAKER,because when you left SVG that was your intention ,to come to Canada to go on REFUGEE ,I am an INDEPENDENT woman who worked HARD scrubbing floors until i got my paper,who ?you will be Canada’s next Prime minister ,in your dreams,why don’t you wake the hell up and stop dreaming,what happen you don’t want to work?are you afraid that your FAKE nails will break?,no you shut up and leave REFUGEE for those women who really deserve it,and stop running the streets of Canada,this conversation is over,we don’t need stupid people like you to listen to

        Posted by susan brown | November 19, 2011, 21:14
      • Miss Brown..I am more of a WOMAN than you ..because I got enough BALLS to stand up for what is right for women In St Vincent. yes miss Brown you must be commended on scrubbing floors for years in Canada and eventually you got your citizenship through marriage… But what can you say YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE ABUSED WOMEN IN ST VINCENT? DID YOU LEND YOUR VOICE TO THE CAUSE?…NO! INSTEAD YOU ARE USING IT THE SAME WAY THE MEN ARE DOING IN ST VINCENT..CUTTING DOWN THE VINCENTIAN WOMEN BY LABELLING THEM LIARS THEIVES AND STREET WALKERS…

        BUT I MUST SAY IT TAKE ONE THIEF AND LIAR TO KNOW THE OTHER…..

        Posted by reflection | November 21, 2011, 00:07
  13. Why is the assumption being made that these clams are fraudulent? Where is the evidence that they are? In the two cases that I-witness-news carried are they fraudulent? If Canada assists battered women, why should we prevent such women from seeking asylum there, when we know from experience that most times when a women is killed by her (ex)lover she had reported him to the police and nothing can be done?
    Why are we willing to rob possible victims of their freedom just because it might tarnish our image?
    This shows the level to which we have our women in this society, that we are willing to allow them to suffer for country or party sake. Wake up in Jesus name!

    Posted by Supa | November 15, 2011, 19:00
  14. Let us not forget, our council General in toronto himself signed papers for a vincy lady who claimed she was abused. Did he make sure that this case was legit???? Lets not jump and say all ladies are lying, because i would assume if our council general is signing papers for ladies filing these claims, then some aspect of it must be true.

    Posted by vincy in bad shape | November 15, 2011, 21:04
  15. Why not invite Gonsalves to Canada, he could have a nice holiday and his presence is really wanted by some in Canada.

    Has anyone noticed he has not been to Canada for a couple of years now, can anyone tell me why that might be?

    He is such a nice man he deserves whatever Canada has in store for him.

    Posted by Peter | November 15, 2011, 22:06
  16. CASE IN POINT IN REGARDS TO VIOLENCE AGAINST VINCENTIAN WOMEN….. EVEN IN THIS CASE IT STATES HE IS A REPEAT OFFENDER……. SO TELL ME WHO ARE THEY TRYING TO FOOL THAT THERE IS NOT A GOOD REASON FOR VINCENTIAN WOMEN TO LEAVE ST.VINCENT AND SEEK PROTECTION IN A COUNTRY WHERE THEY COULD ALEASE FEEL SAFE AND GET JUSTICE FOR WHAT HAPPEN TO THEM…….
    ITS NOT ONLY A MANS WORLD…IT WAS BUILT ON THE BACKS OF WOMEN…..

    High Court Judge drops the hammer on Primus

    Bilton Primus (R) being ecorted by officers from the High Court.
    Staff Reporter• Tue, Nov 15, 2011

    For repeatedly hitting his ex-girlfiend in the head with a hammer, then smashing her knees with the same hammer, exposing the bone, High Court Judge Frederick Bruce-Lyle sentenced Campden Park resident Bilton Primus to 15 years imprisonment.

    Before passing sentence, on Friday, November 11, Bruce-Lyle said he thought long and hard about what sentence he should impose on Primus. However, the judge said, “I really can’t help you. What you did to the girl can only be described as despicable.”

    On Monday, October 24, 2011, the 38-year-old carpenter was found guilty of assault and grievous bodily harm of Darrine Edwards of Old Montrose.

    Bruce-Lyle said the evidence brought against Primus was overwhelming and yet still, he went ahead and wasted the court’s time. “These are aggravating factors. You don’t treat human beings, especially women in that fashion. You have to go to prison,” Bruce-Lyle firmly stated.

    The judge said he had to take into consideration the fact that Primus is not a first time offender.

    “Instead of learning a lesson, you went and did more. In other words, you have no regard for the law. The law is there for you to obey,” he continued.

    In her testimony to the court, Edwards said that on November 5, 2009, Primus kidnapped her and took her to his home at Campden Park, where she was held for eight days.

    The woman said while in the house, she was beaten in her head with a hammer and all about her body, which resulted in a broken knee cap. She said she could not leave the house because of her injured leg, and was afraid to leave because the defendant frequented a shop nearby.

    She was, however, able to escape one night, after the defendant came home and fell asleep. She then made a report to the police.

    Primus was found not guilty in relation to the kidnapping charge.(KW)

    Posted by reflection | November 16, 2011, 00:22
  17. Thank supa and reflection for standing up for the rights of abuse women in vincy ,Suzzan Brown needs help,that makes you an evil person to say such a thing*angry face*,i know a lot of hard working women who make a lot of contribution to canada,but we are all vincentian and should look out for each other,i dont have much vincy friends but they are my people,

    Posted by masonda | November 16, 2011, 00:25
    • masonda you look carefully in the mirror you needs help that’s why you are applying for refugee,what i am saying is true because i know of 4 yes four women in montreal who did it and now they are back home in s v g living life to the fullest,if there is a real situation where a woman can get help well so be it ,but for Gods sake stop the lying it just gonna put a dent on those who really needs it,got my point ? do you think if i can help someone i wont?but they themselves are making it bad for everybody,so before you suggest that i need help you go and get help i already get help

      Posted by susan brown | November 16, 2011, 18:55
      • Woman, first of all go learn your grammar. You seem like an illeterate fool. You do not need to be in this conversation since you have nothing possitive to say.

        Posted by Veronica | March 18, 2012, 08:16
  18. I have read a lot of the comments and believe people are missing the point. The prime minister is giving a warning to those who are making false claims. Let us be honest. Are all the claims true I doubt it. The spike is at an alarming rate and whether true or not the Canadian government will look to tighten the immagration policy for St. Vincent. That is what the Prime Minister is speaking about. There is violence against women everywher. It is not just for the government to speak out, but the churches and other human right agencies.. Also are people reporthing these cases to the authorties. I think sometimes people make a lot of things political when start with each other. Stop trying to blame a person or a government and be an agent of change in your surrounding. I can tell you this much that with this article in the Toronto star your island will now be under scrutiny.. They will for sure look to tighten the immigration laws. There will be real cases but as the SVG Prime Minister said if there are false cases stop because it will affect the “real Cases” really think about it Vincentians before blaming the government for what some people are fasely doing.

    Posted by Paul | November 16, 2011, 09:50
  19. Paul, your POST is the MOST SENSIBLE that I have READ.

    It is as if the others do not GRASP that VICNENTIANS will highly likely LOSE the RIGHT to TRAVEL to CANADA without a VISA if this HIGHLY LIKELY PRACTICE of making FALSE CLAIMS for REFUGEE STATUS continues.

    Knowing the SILLY MENTALITY of these people, they will BLAME the GOVERNMENT as well, if it should come to PAST.

    Posted by VINCY POWA (@VINCYPOWA) | November 16, 2011, 10:14
  20. REFLECTION, I READ IT, and?

    Posted by VINCY POWA (@VINCYPOWA) | November 16, 2011, 10:16
    • Yes VINCYPOWA…..I have said enough on this issue…but I must say it is easy to divert the issue and blame it on others instead of fixing the problems. these problems are causing vincentian men and women to leave the country and filing for refugee in Canada.

      IT IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, FIX THE SYSTEM CAUSING THE PROBLEMS AND WE WOULDN’T HAVE A HIGH RATE OF REFUGEE CLAIMS IN CANADA…

      IT’S HIGH TIME NOW FOR VINCENTIAN ESPECIALLY WOMEN TO FEEL SAFE AND SECURE IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES. THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMICAL SYSTEM IN ST VINCENT IS BROKEN. YOU CAN ONLY PATCH A HOLE FOR SO LONG BEFORE IT TURNS INTO A CRATER.

      Posted by reflection | November 16, 2011, 11:44
  21. i am living in canada for the 5 years and i have no regrets ,there are jobs here and i feel more save here to walk in the night.i love my country but hearing all these murder and rapes thats goin it makes never want to go back.and in svg it not easy being a victim of abuse people often bully you about it so there are no protection for woman and children.svg is to samll for one to hide from someone who want to kill them .and i think the pm have a lot to do about what going on in the country if he as a pm has a history of beening accuse of rape and no case comes out of it what he leave the other who like wise to think ,that they can do the same and worse and get away.please pm do some thing better dont set on ur seat and just talk there are no protection in the country for woman and kids .i am 32 years old and from i know myself woman and kids get abuse and i hear older people talk about woman that husband and comlaw husban beat and kill.we dont have the best country in the world.

    Posted by vincy | November 16, 2011, 13:44
  22. REFLECTION, how MANY MEN have FILED for REFUGEE STATUS in CANADA?

    Posted by VINCY POWA (@VINCYPOWA) | November 16, 2011, 15:48
    • VINCYPOWA …are you living under a rock or up in the mountain hole at soufriere. many of our country’s young men who have identify themselves as being gay are trying their harderest to leave st vincent for a better life in countries like Canada. What kinda of person are you to draw conculsions that vincy men are less likely to apply for refugee status in Canada. It just shows ordinary people in Canada and St Vincent how much you vaule women and that men have the right to do what they do to women. There are evidence to show that Vincentian women plight goes deeper than the few who manage to escape to Canada and seek protection. Yes the system Canadian Imigration system do not have provisons ot handle the kind of cases coming out of St.Vincent thats why some of the cases are being denied. But the records of some of the accpeted cases have highlight the fact that women are worst off in St Vincent and the Abuse of women are at an alarming rate.

      THIS IS NOT ABOUT WOMEN AND MEN..ITS ABOUT THE CLEAR VIOLATION OF WOMEN RIGHTS IN ST VINCENT AND THE GRENADINE… THERE ARE CLEAR EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT..LOOK AT THE LAST TEN YEARS OF FRONT PAGE NEWS PAPERS …A PICTUER OF A WOMAN EITHER KILLED OR DISFIGURED BY A MAN.

      Posted by reflection | November 16, 2011, 17:18
  23. VINCY, SVG is one of the SAFEST COUNTRIES in the ENTIRE CARIBBEAN, PERIOD.

    SVg is SAFER than Jamaica, Trinidad, Barbados, St. Lucia, Grenada, St. Kitts, etc.

    Posted by VINCY POWA (@VINCYPOWA) | November 16, 2011, 15:51
  24. i will like to ask mr steve phillips if it is a fact that the young lady who he intercede on her behalf to get to stay in canada also have a child for a big polititian and that she was under age when that happen, please mr phillips could we know if any truth in that story, just a question.

    Posted by god change things | November 16, 2011, 19:07
  25. i know of two guys file for refugee status in canada because they are gay and they have been beaten many times in sveg , so it not ony women alone.

    Posted by god change things | November 16, 2011, 19:30
  26. The exposé in the Toronto media concerns a national issue for our blessed St Vincent and The Grenadines. We have heard words of wisdom from our astute Prime Minister. I may be mistaken, but we are yet to hear from the Honourable Leader of the Opposition. It makes me wonder, why the silence?
    Tagsy

    Posted by John Greene | November 16, 2011, 20:29
    • You are mistaken…..

      Posted by vincy in bad shape | November 16, 2011, 23:10
    • John it is not the opposition leader to reply to the issue.it’s the prime-minister’s duty and responsibility to reasure Vincentians both at home and aboard that much is being down to raise the awareness of women’s right and the protection of all its citizens…….

      Femicide is a national epidemic in St Vincent and it need to stop…. we all here on earth thanks to our mothers, grandmothers, sisters, aunts…. they carry us for nine months, loolk after us went we were sick and protect us from the harms and dangers out there… so is it to little to ask to protect them in return.,..

      JAH…… bless us all.

      Posted by reflection | November 16, 2011, 23:27
  27. after reading all of the articles above i must say St Vincent and the grenadines need a make over,i am so sorry for THE LADIES that had to flee to CANADA to seek refuge,but for those who are claiming BOGUS claims needs to stop it immediately,do you know that St Vincent and the Grenadines are the only Caribbean island who do need VISA to travel to Canada?if they continues their travelling privillages that we has will be taken away from us as soon as possible,and that is going to put a blame on EVERYBODY not only the ones who are BOGUS but those who really needs it,there are so many SMART,INTELLIGENT AND HARD WORKING WOMEN from St Vincent,the P M wanted you guys to used VISA when St Lucia did but the VISA did not applied to you Vincentians,so please do not make it happen ,because when it does,it will not be REVOKED,it is time for you all to work together as one and lend a helping hand to each other ,and believe me this makes the IMMIGRATION department wants to know ,because to them every CLAIM is BOGUS, oh and by the way the PREVIOUS IMMIGRATION REPRESENTATIVE IS A VINCENTIAN/ CANADIAN,does people ever sit and wonder why they replaced her?

    Posted by jasmine brown | November 17, 2011, 10:13
  28. suzzan brown, you clearly stated vincentian women are trouble makers in canada ,thieves and whatever,am no denying the fact that some of these women dont live off the social assistant system they do it,but if i was a victim of abuse i wont be embarass to claim for refugee,but my parents were there to protect me so i dont have a reason to do it,there’s no evidence to prove it if i was to make up a story,sorry,i need help really,you have me laugh,you really made my day,i wont let u ruin it, sorry,i have a husband starting college january with no kids yet,MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND MY COUNTRY,PEACE LOVE YALL

    Posted by masonda henry | November 17, 2011, 12:24
  29. As far as i am concern this issue is being made a political issue when it is actually more of a societal issue. Violence against women is rampant every where you go. In Canada “the main country that brought up this issue” if you pull up the statistics on abuse in Canada ” Between 2000 and 2009, there were 738 spousal homicides, representing 16% of all solved homicides and nearly half (47%) of all family-related homicides” that is just the tip of the iceberg. Is that country suppose to be a place of refuge? Outside society has a big influence on caribbean culture especially the media. I am an NDP supporter but quite frankly i think that both leaders of both parties are just two @$%&%#@$, but that is just my personal feelings towards them. The point im trying to get across to the Vincentian people is that it should not be left merely on the government to help solve this “Worldwide” problem of domestic violence that is happening in our country, its also up to us the Vincentian Community. Alot of times we keep a blind eye towards these stuff and dont say nothing.

    PS … i dont believe one bit that any of these women were raped by the Prime Minister so stop making that an issue. “Innocent until Proven Guilty”

    Posted by Vigilant | November 19, 2011, 12:50

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